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Vapor Transmission Bio
Your watch reads 1:07, a.m. or p.m., who knows? And you've just escaped through a black hole to the Andrio System with gender-swapping Dramatica. You had to get away from the Bomb-Bomb Boys and the Jockstrap Girls somehow. But now you're feeling paranoid, searching through the flashing lights for hapless Gerrold (you thought he could find his own way home) and sainted Eva, the one person who can show you wrong from right. All you want is a little clarity and compassion in this ambiguous world, but some suckerface is trying to drain your time and energy, and your former lover dreams in digital and likes it.

What you need is a superpill to make you feel better. Yeah, a superpill to make everything all right. But don't let the radio see you swallow it. Then the Opticon will know your plans...

Or something like that. For those of us who felt a perverse hint of disappointment when the world failed to spin off its axis in the new millennium, and life remained so... "last century," Orgy introduces the first album of the year 2000 that truly sounds like it was made in and for a new era. The 30th century, that is, according to "The Oddyssey" from the band's new album Vapor Transmission.

Not only does Vapor Transmission sound like the synthesis of every crucial youth-music movement of the past 30 years, but the ultra-vivid songs are so heavily peopled and rich with imagery they could easily form the basis of a video game, a screenplay or even a musical (and may still). More importantly, they draw open the screen of a listener's mind. From there, it's up to the individual to project his or her own future legend like the one above.



Group Bio
"We never know how people are going to react to our band," says Orgy's vocalist Jay Gordon. "But they always react." "Yeah," says guitarist Ryan Shuck. "Everyone has an opinion on us." Including the members of Cali legends Korn, who made Orgy the first signing to Elementree Records, their new Reprise-distributed record label.
"It's something fresh and new - that's what turns me on," says Korn singer Jonathan Davis. "I think they'll appeal to a lot of kids, a lot of different people. They're fashionable pretty-dudes, so all the chicks will dig 'em. And they're real heavy, so hopefully a lot of our friends will like them, too."

Orgy didn't really form as much as just happen. The five guys all knew each other from hanging around So Cal and playing in various bands.

"Ryan and I conceptualized Orgy only about six months before we were signed," says Jay. "We started writing songs together as soon as we hooked up. It started off in a garage, with Josh our co-producer. We just started throwing some rough shit together, and the next thing you know weíre recording an album and making plans to tour with Korn!"

"We didnít want to go out and play the club circuit and get burned out," adds Ryan. "Playing clubs over and over for our friends. That would be pointless. We just went in and recorded who and what we are."

"We didnít want to let the cat out of the bag too early," offers bassist Paige Haley. By choosing to record right away, the band captured the early energy that brought them together in the first place, trusting their instincts and believing if you mess with things too much, you can lose that creative spark that makes it so right initially.

That creative spark soon grew into an inferno - a spectacular debut album called Candyass. When queried on the meaning of its dozen songs produced by Orgy and Josh Abraham, the band deflects any serious implications. "It's pretty much just all bullshit," laughs Jay. "We conjured up a bunch of lies and fairy tales." Nevertheless, he doesn't deny that atmosphere played a role in the process, "We recorded on a snow-capped mountain in Tahoe, in a huge cabin. It was along the lines of 'The Shining.' Cabin-fever set in after about 15 minutes, right after the truck left back for Los Angeles."

"It's a raw record," declares Ryan. "It's all five-in-the-morning, pissed-off, fighting-with-each-other, kill-each-other kinda stuff. There's an innovative, futuristic feel to the music. Yeah, it's pretty cool."

Paige contributes, "It's kind of like death pop." "Our songs are all just slightly deranged, but I can definitely hear them on the radio," adds Ryan, who co-wrote Korn's "Blind" with Davis. "Don't look for any more meaning than that."

"Anything you can imagine is what we use to make a record," says guitar synth wizard Amir Derakh. "From old-school to state-of-the-art and everything in between."

As for the name Orgy, don't jump to the conclusion that there's only one meaning to that word. "Believe it or not, it's not a sexually-based name," says Jay. "It's a musical reference, y'know? We play a collage of sounds, you could say. But it's still hard to tell the lady at the bakery that you're in a band called Orgy and keep a straight face."

"We do have a sound that's really a mixture of a great many sounds," adds Amir. "The good thing about the name is that it sticks in your head."

Orgy History Lesson
Orgy was formed in late 1997 with group members Jay Gordon, Ryan Shuck, Amir Derakh, Paige Haley, and Bobby Hewitt. The five guys knew each other from Southern California and playing in different bands. Jay and Paige had known eachother for twelve years as well.

"Ryan and I conceptualized Orgy only about six months before we were signed," says Jay. "We started writing songs together as soon as we hooked up. It started off in a garage, with Josh our co-producer. We just started throwing some rough shit together."

Orgy became the first band to be signed to Korns Elementree subsidiary of Reprise Records. Soon enough, they were making plans to tour with Korn for Family Values.

Their debut album, Candyass was released in 1998 with their hit Blue Monday followed closely by Stitches.

"It's pretty much just all bullshit," laughs Jay. "We conjured up a bunch of lies and fairy tales. We recorded on a snow-capped mountain in Tahoe, in a huge cabin. It was along the lines of 'The Shining.' Cabin-fever set in after about fifteen minutes, right after the truck left back for Los Angeles."---"It's a raw record," says Ryan. "It's all five-in-the-morning, pissed-off, fighting-with-each-other, kill-each-other kinda stuff. There's an innovative, futuristic feel to the music. Yeah, it's pretty cool."

Following Candyass, Vapor Transmission was set to be released two years later on October 10th of 2000, and was immediately a big hit with great reviews all around.

"It's just me taking an artistic impression of what I've seen. I wanted people to see that there's a lot more than just the music happening on this record. You're listening to us literally hanging out, episodes of our last year. The lyrics are about real life, even though they're put in a science-fiction setting. Orgy lives in a make-believe science-fiction world I'm gonna have to admit that. I hope when people listen to the album they can come into that world a little bit. The songs are definitely based on a lot of real-life factions this time," says Jay. "It's about scenes from my life and other people's lives that I've witnessed or heard about. There's a lot more truth involved."

What Jay means by truth, is that a lot of the songs were written about certain people that they knew.

"Gerrold is a real-life character. He's a friend of ours from New Orleans." continues Jay, "Eva is our producer Josh Abraham's late mother. She passed and Josh didn't really get to talk to her. It was a really heavy thing in my life. We put our band together in Eva's garage. She was a great lady, and I wrote the song through Josh's eyes."

The album was done at a mansion in Tarzana that Orgy called the Clarinda House where they locked themselves up in it for three months. To see pictures of the mansion, click here

"There was a gym separate from the house that we turned into the recording studio so it could be running 24 hours a day and people in the house wouldn't be disturbed." says Amir Derakh.

"Yeah," adds Hewitt, "we know... well, Jay knows a lot of weirdo people who would show up at four in the morning, out of their heads and have these ideas. And next thing we knew there was a song written about one of them."

The album also had a lot of meaning to their words, it was all what they were feeling at the time.

"Groups of people can get together and be quite vicious; it's not cool," says Gordon. "So there are a lot of references to how I feel about that. I'm not bitter about anything, though. I may not be happy with some people's actions, but I'd be just as ignorant to harbor hostility towards them."

Amir had a little bit of a different view on the lyrics, "I think that's from being in L.A. There are a lot of fucking idiots here," he says, laughing. "We have to deal with so much bullshit, whether it's girls or... there's always some kind of drama going on. And I think that's where a lot of that comes from. I think it's cool, because even though it's not specific, it's our way of getting back."

As for their band name, all you pervs out there might think it means something of a sexual content.

"Believe it or not, it's not a sexually-based name," says Jay. "It's a musical reference, y'know? We play a collage of sounds, you could say."---"We do have a sound that's really a mixture of a great many sounds," says Amir. "The good thing about the name is that it sticks in your head."

Quotes:

Jay Gordon Quotes

"This isn't music designed for everyone. We like taking as many chances as possible, both in the studio and on stage. That's what makes it exciting. It's living life on the musical edge. If occasionally you crash and burn, you'll live with it. Luckily we haven't crashed that many times...and we're not planning on doing it at any point in the near future."

"No bands take the chance we do live, especially with technology. We don't use computers. My drummer will fire a loop off a pad, and it's all in time-and that's hard to do. We take a huge chance with it every night we go out on stage."

"What's important [to me] is that you give away all your emotion in the music."

"[our music is] a collection of short stories, stories about parents, stories about good relationships and stories about bad relationships, different ways of thinking and everything told in my rather abstract language."

"A lot of the lyrics aren't as negative as you might think. Downers aren't a part of this band. Uppers are more our style. Fuck being depressed, you know?"

"It's fantastic to be on a label run by musicians, not some guys in suits."

"...And here I am now, a singer in a crazy band."

"[About the lyric 'Turn down the voluptuous.'] That's what I felt that day. I was sick of the whole big-tittied striper vibe. I hate those big huge basketballs! I like a nice C-cup, right around that size. The double-Ds are a little too much!"

"I'm not a rock star, I'm a rock bright-light."

"It's still hard to tell the lady at the bakery that you're in a band called Orgy and keep a straight face."

"We have really cool fans."

"I was in a club in LA, a bit drunk, and a guy walked up to me, he was a gigantic drag queen, completely decked out, with, long nails, fake lashes, a dress, high heels. He, or maybe I should say she, walked up to me and asked me for my name, so I said 'I'm Jay.' He just looked at me and said 'My name's Candyass!' That was really something, you know. Somehow we thought it would be a perfect name for the album, even if it isn't at all about sex."

"It [our band name] has nothing to do with sex or any of that kind of stuff, not that we don't enjoy that kind of stuff."

"This is our last song. So we need you motherfuckers to make a lot of fucking noise!" (Family Values Tour)

"You gotta have a sence of humor to be in NSYNC."

"Let's not get into personal questions. I was born in San Francisco and that's as far as I'm going. There's got to be some mystique."

"Don't waste your fucking time: live, let go. We don't want to waste time having useless discussions, we would rather take that step forward and move on. 'Do what you must but do it!' Is our motto."

"A little culture never hurt anybody. I'm sick of the baggy clothes and bands walking around like Droopy The Fucking Clown. Let's tighten it up a bit! Make it look a little more stylish."

"We're quite normal, actually."

"Believe me, you wouldn't want to see me naked. Tell them we all have little dicks."

"Dicks do nothing for me, but women do wonders!"

"Somone's getting a bit happy with my ass back there!"

"As I walk through a field of daisies I feel so pretty."

"I wore more makeup than my mother."

"I was always a fashion bitch."

"When I got into the fourth grade I started kissing and got into girls with lots of lip-gloss. That's probably where I got my lip-gloss fascination from."

"I'm really into lingerie. Not a lot of it, just very faint bits."

"Groupies are cool."

"Oh yeah, and those other faggots in the band, Ry, Mir, Bob, Paige..You're all on restriction."

"I'll beat that whole band's ass single handedly."

"Bowie's, like, my favorite person in the entire universe."

"So what was the question again... oh yeah, bowling..."


"Goodbye, Dude." (Family Values Tour)

Amir Derakh Quotes

"Basically I'm just a guitar player, but the thing is, using my guitar I have pretty much unlimited sound. By the next record, my setup's going to be amazing. I can only go so far at this point because, first-off, it costs a lot of money to have a rig like I do. Plus I've been feeling it out as I go along. It's a learning process, too. Not that it hasn't been done, but it hasn't been done in the way we're doing it."

"I love reading the manuals for these guitar synthesizers. Some of the things they say are just so retarded. Like, 'This is your standard setup. Don't be afraid to experiment.' Ha-ha Ha-ha!"

"We tend to want the very best and we like to mix everything up."

"We don't really strive to be dance-friendly, but that's definitely there."

"People will say whatever they want to say. Our version of 'Blue Monday' sounds enough like us that a lot of people don't even recognize it as the New Order song. We even created the chorus-the 'how does it feel?' section-because the original song didn't have one."

"I've seen strippers dance to our music in clubs all over the country. Mostly the remixes of 'Blue Monday' and 'Stitches'."

"Image wise, we are more influenced by Duran Duran, as they were always so stylish."

"When we played in Oregon in April, the fans totally swarmed our bus. They had big signs that said, 'We love Orgy,' and they were screaming and yelling. They ripped Ryan's 800 dollar shirt, and he was whining about it for a week."

"This guy right next to me was talking mad shit. I didn't even notice that he was talking about me until he mentioned my nail polish. I turned around and said 'Oh you like it? It's pretty cool, huh?'."

"No way. I'd pull some rock star shit and arrive in a limo."

"Girls trip out over all the shit we have."

"I personally like oil, water, anything like that."

"Yeah I love that shit. Sex in showers."

"I like to spank a couple of asses."

"I'm fucking sick of people man!"

"That's so not funny..."

Paige Haley Quotes

"People say we're the band born with the silver spoon in it's mouth, but we've all been working our asses off for a long time."

"Playing live really cemented what we are. It helped us to truly discover ourselves and our sound. And what we discovered is that live, no matter what we did, we couldn't keep down the fact that we are a heavy band."

"Jay's definitely the best connected one of us. He runs his mouth a lot, and he's always around everybody at all times so he meets a lot of people."

"We call it [the tour bus] the fish tank."

"I think it was water bottle day at the stadium."

"Sometimes it's faster if we're running late."

"People get scared when they party with us."

"We went to this gentleman's club in Reno. Ryan thought he was throwing one-dollar bills onstage, but they were actually hundreds."

[after bobby got only a few points bowling] "Yeah Bobby! You rule, dude! That was so dope!"

"Bowling's kinda like a flowing thing, ya' know? If you ain't got the flow, it's not going to happen."

[talking about bowling] "Well, there's not many sports where you can, like, sit there and eat a big ol' burger, drink a whole bunch of beer, and still do a good game."

"Oh yeah...smack an ass."

"people are people man, they're not into us, we're not into them."

Bobby Hewitt Quotes

"I'll be totally honest: I'm not playing in this band just because I love playing drums. I mean obviously I do. But I'm doing this because this is a corporation; a full-blown thing that's going to be generating oppertunities. Look at all these artists like Puff Daddy. He's producing movies, writing jingles. If you can branch out in the right directions, it's endless what you can do."

"Now we're much more sure of what we wanna accomplish and what our style of music is and what our way of dressing is. The first record seems like an experiment."

"It's very important to have a good tech. When something goes wrong on the road, and you have all these guys pointing the finger at you, it's a relief to know that your tech can take care of it."

"As soon as I took my rack out on the road, I had huge buzzes in every line due to a ground problem. If you touched the rack rails and the DIs at the same time, you'd get shocked. It was a nightmare."

"Never give up, but be ready to go through some hell."

"I heard those college kids are kinda nuts."

"I think doing this college tour is gonna be crazy."

"Well..I don't know the KoRn tour was pretty crazy."

"We're gonna have a Sugar Ray-Orgy club every night. Designated room...special passes..."

"Look, Ryan's a chik magnet... I'm... I'm... an air magnet."

"I will, definitely, not be doing karaoke."

"You know what would be cool? If like, every time you signed an autograph for a chick, like, the thing to be would be, like, flash your titties?" (Family Values Tour)

"She just slapped it! It didn't hurt really. It was just fucking hilarious!"

"Babe it's okay, you'll have your turn soon enough. Hell, when my career ends I can just open a kissing booth."

"can i just say that i've never been known to turn down the voluptous?"

Ryan Shuck Quotes

"We just translated it. You can't fuck up a song like that."

"Your not allowed to look like a normal person in Orgy."

"I have no rythmn and I'm a horrible singer."

"When Orgy gets together, we have fun, and somehow it ends up with me being naked."

"This could only happen to you Amir, and I hate you for that, man."

"A lot of the coutore designers have some pretty edgy clothing. Many people like this sort of stuff and we just throw it together. We're not afraid to do everything we've always wanted to do. Grunge made it hard to dress cool and have fun, but we are all about to change that."

(When asked who he'd love to do a duet with) "David Bowie. That would, like, make my fuckin' career."

"Dude, they're going totally shizoid on us."

"Everyday i look at Amir and think, 'Gee, what an ugly guy.'"

"All winners are subjects to people laughing at you..." (Family Values Tour)

"Personally, I did speed off the control board a couple hundred times! I accidentally spilled some on one of the knobs, so I had to snort it all up. But that's normal, isn’t it?"

"When I get drunk... something happens."

"Beer. Beer. Beer. Beer."

"Have you ever heard the 'me' alarm? me. me. me. me."

"Dude, full water bottles are as bad as a beer bottle.They have a nice hand-grenade like impact."

"We also buy from girls stores. If it looks good, we'll wear it."

"All makeup's cool...I've never found any shoes I like though."

"We're strip club monsters!"

"I could bury my head in an ass right now."

"I've got a severe ass fetish dude....and skinny girls? Wow!"

"Look! I've got hella chicks with me! I'm a pimp, I'm a fucking pimp, yeah!"

"This is my butt. Its not yours!"

"I'm not down with pain."

"That looks S-I-ACK dude!" (Family Values Tour while putting makeup on the drummer from Korn)

"Kids need to start raising some hell."

"we're not like anti-backstreet boys. We're fucking Backstreet boys on speed!"

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